Rebecca Gibney is at peace with her roles at home and
on-screen, writes Peter Craven.
Small Claims sounds like an idea made in heaven. A set
of detective story telemovies with two of the country's best-loved
actors, Rebecca Gibney and Claudia Karvan, as a sleuthing duo of
down-to-earth women. Karvan is a brisk, unbutch, 30-something
policewoman; Gibney is a one-time lawyer, at the cusp of middle
age, helping to nurture husband and kids by running a catering
business.
It's directed by Cherie Nowlan, who made a splash some time back
with the Frances O'Connor/Cate Blanchett girl comedy Thank God
He Met Lizzie, and the idea is clearly to entice the mums and
daughters into seeing Chrissy Hindmarsh (Gibney's cake-baking
solicitor) and Jo Collins (Karvan's cop as dutiful daughter) as
mirror images of ordinary women.
When I spoke to Gibney she was sounding blissed out by her
16-month-old baby and the beauties of the Tasmanian landscape. The
voice that had oozed glamour and authority as Halifax f.p.
was sounding laid-back and easy, as if life could be a lot worse,
when we spoke on the phone. "It's Desperate Housewives without the Botox," she says
of Small Claims. "And with, I hope, a bit more reality
thrown in."
Reality sounds like a dimension in which she's happy. Small
Claims looks as though it may become a regular series. So far
it's a trio of telemovies, with one made 18 months ago and another
to be shown later in the year. Gibney says that motherhood was
something looming ahead of her. "Now reality's caught up with the
character I play. I turned 40 recently and I had my first baby. I
live in a deeply pleasant environment in Tasmania. I love it
all."
She says that, yes, Small Claims is a bit of a Thelma
and Louise thing, that's part of its appeal to women and she
believes that women are the TV-keepers of the world. "A lot of
women control the remote in the households they run. The husbands
and the boys might get their hands on it at the weekend with all
the sport but most of the time television is a woman's domain. A
lot of my friends are very strong females and I think a lot of
women are going to respond to the suburban setting in Small
Claims."
The episode White Wedding involves murder and fraud and a
pretty blonde horror (Karvan's half-sister Kiara, played by Alyssa
McClelland) who seems to have got mixed up with some dodgy
characters. There's Michael Dorman (the blond boy from the last
year of The Secret Life of Us) who's also in trouble, but
with old-timers such as Deborah Kennedy as the mother and Brooke
Satchwell in the wings - and an actual hen's night in the middle of
the movie - this is very much a women's suburbia that is disrupted
by murder.
"I think we underrate suburbia," Gibney says. "A lot more goes
on in it, it's a much more powerful world, than we sometimes
imagine. I mean there's plenty of drama out there. Suburbia. It's a
cesspool."
As Desperate Housewives testifies. She likes the American
soap but she's bemused by the fact that Chrissy Hindmarsh is
sometimes thought to show the influence of the Felicity Huffman
character in DH. She thinks Huffman's character is brilliant
but says that Small Claims got there first. They arrived at
the idea of the hassled, stay-at-home wife and mother who'd once
had a career long before Desperate Housewives took up the
theme.
"And, you know, when Claudia and I were approached we both
insisted that we wanted to play ordinary recognisable women. I mean
I'd done the Halifax thing and that was great fun with all
the Armani suits. And, of course, everyone enjoys escaping into
that fantasy life. They enjoy watching it and identifying with it
and I certainly enjoyed playing that person with all that flash
stuff.
But then there's the world of having a baby and discovering that
you've got fleshy bits under your arms and you've got a
post-pregnancy pot belly. I think it's a fact that particularly
after the age of 35 most women start contemplating the fact that
they will be overlooked for the nearest pretty 23-year-old."
Obviously Small Claims and Desperate Housewives
are reflecting something in the Zeitgeist, which is making women
who might well have had lives elsewhere reclaim the suburban worlds
they have deliberately chosen.
Gibney says that the third of the Small Claims telemovies
has a parallel storyline to what happens to Huffman's character in
Desperate Housewives. "In the third episode she runs into a
lawyer who knew her when she was a solicitor. There's
trouble-making and this makes her question some of the choices
she's made in life and where they leave a woman who's a mother of
35 or 40."
Whether or not Small Claims goes from being a moveable
feast of occasional telemovies to being a series is in the lap of
the gods.
"It's very much up in the air," Gibney says. "It depends on the
ratings. It's a terribly unfortunate thing though, the lack of
Australian drama. We had decent TV drama once upon a time and we
lost it. I'm very supportive of the idea of Australian drama. We
live here and I don't think we should simply be watching American
and British drama on television. That's why you have to support
things like The Alice and hope they work."
She points to the lack of resources invested in Australian TV
drama compared to the American model. "Unfortunately we don't have
the money. Desperate Housewives would have 20 very good
writers working on it to punch out a script. It has production
values we can't dream of affording. It has a string of
directors."
What's the solution? "Well, I think the government needs to get
behind television drama and provide some financial incentive for
it."
I asked Gibney if that was why some people refused to be
involved with a full 22-week series, as opposed to a 13-week series
(which is what she wants for Small Claims). The woman who
was a star on Flying Doctors almost 20 years ago and who won
an AFI award and a Logie for the very ambitious adaptation of
Come in Spinner knows television like the back of her
hand.
"They're right to insist on 13 episodes when there just aren't
the resources for anything else and everything is likely to become
threadbare. Though we used to do 22 episodes a year of Flying
Doctors. But we were lucky with Flying Doctors. We had
14 days to do two episodes. Most Australian shows these days are
expected to shoot an hour of television in five days. When you look
at the circumstances under which something like Stingers was
made it has to be commended, the results are fantastic. But think
of what it could have been if it had been given a bit of
money."
Co-star Karvan is off producing and acting in the second series
of her saga of love and pain among the young married and once
married, Love My Way, which riveted pay TV viewers a few
months ago with its sophisticated representation of young couples
and by showing collective grief at the death of a child.
What did Gibney think of it? "I thought it was terrific. It had
fantastic performances and it had a lot of appeal to younger
people, I think. She's incredibly gifted and brilliant, Claudia. It
had great-looking production values even though I don't think there
was a huge amount of money involved, but the crucial thing was that
Foxtel were really behind it and they gave it the time and money it
needed."
Gibney looks back fondly on Halifax and the luxury of
making three telemovies a year and spending the time needed to make
them properly. "I loved Halifax," she says.
She sounds contented, almost dreamy as she looks back on it all,
though her voice becomes intense when she talks of Come in
Spinner: "It was my first, my only AFI award and it was a
wonderful thing to do. It was so detailed. Every bit of the
underwear you wore in it, things no one ever saw, was made in
keeping with the history, it was absolutely accurate. It also
allowed me to work with my very dear friend Kerry Armstrong."
Then she sighs and digs further into her past. "And going back,
well, there was Flying Doctors. I was a little New Zealand
girl who'd just come to Australia and it took me to Paris and
Cannes. You know I still get mail from Holland and Germany because
of Flying Doctors. No one else in the world writes to me but
the Germans are still fans."
She sounds bemused when we talk about the remake she did of
Stephen King's Salem's Lot, shot in Melbourne with Donald
Sutherland and a cast of many Australians in bit parts sporting
American accents. "Well, it was an interesting experiment." She
clearly wants to move around in her profession. "I did an
interesting film recently called Lost and Found, in which I
played a battered wife."
So, she's intent on playing roles that are not as glamorous as
Halifax?
"Well, not as glamorous or more glamorous," she says. "I
wouldn't mind playing a Sharon Stone-style serial killer."
She sounds like a person who is looking out on a world of acting
possibilities from the perspective of someone who has found what's
centrally important to her. She talks about how she's soon to play
the alcoholic mother of a teenage boy. "She's a fine woman. She
tries to encourage her son by getting him maps and globes. It's
just that she drinks."
She'll film it early next year. But for the time being it's
motherhood and domesticity.
"Now I'm focused on being a mum and doing that ridiculously
idyllic thing. You know, growing organic vegetables and fishing in
the river."
Gibney and her husband Richard Bell live 40 minutes from
Launceston. She loves the country. It reminds her of her native New
Zealand. She says she could stay there forever as long as they can
stop the plans to put a pulp mill down in the middle of things.
"It's quite extraordinary," she says. "We've learnt so much
about not cutting down trees. Why in the name of God you would want
to put a great bloody paper mill on this waterway, which would not
only pollute Bass Strait but would pollute Launceston, which is
already polluted, even more."
It's a flash of anger. There's a hint of the same thing when she
talks about the way the Americans are killing off the British film
industry.
But then she talks wistfully about the rare films from this part
of the world that work, Whale Rider in New Zealand,
Lantana in Australia - was that the last Australian film she
liked?
"Most of the time," she says, "if a film has any commercial
potential, if there's an idea that people might actually want to
see, it gets killed off."
She's concerned she sounds untouched. There's the baby and the
river. Gibney at 40 sounds like a woman who's happy to be growing
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