Australian Story
KERRY ARMSTRONGHer Own Sweet Way
ANTHONY LAPAGILA: Hi, I'm Anthony LaPaglia. After many years of working
in the United States and Australia, there is one actress that I
remember working with very fondly, and that's Kerry Armstrong. We
played husband and wife in a film called 'Lantana'. And the first time
I met Kerry, she just walked across the rehearsal room and sat in my
lap, and it made me a little uncomfortable, and she just looked me in
the eye and said, "Get over it. We're playing husband and wife." And
I'm glad she did, because she went on to play the role of her life.
However, things haven't always worked out so brilliantly for her. As
you'll see on tonight's Australian Story, it's been a long and rocky
road for Kerry, whose reputation often precedes her.
BEV ARMSTRONG: It seems that Kerry, because she is such a high-energy
person, life deals her either extremes. Very unfortunate things or very
wonderful things have happened to Kerry throughout her life.
REBECCA GIBNEY: I think Kerry thinks she was Hitler in a past life. She
really does believe that she did some nasty things back then and she's
paying for it now. I think many people think Kerry's crazy, and she
probably is, to a certain extent. She wouldn't mind me saying that. I
think people don't know how to take her, I think professionally and
personally. They just don't get her. I've always gotten her - I got her
from day one.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: What we're doing is organising what we're calling a
'banner of faith' on the steps of Parliament House for next Monday to
raise our voices against the war.
NU LYNCH: Once she gets an idea into her head about a project, it's, like, full focus, go and get it done.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: This is a way of getting attention. It's got nothing
to do with the bra. We need to work from the inside out now. We need to
know that every small thing we do is of consequence.
REBECCA GIBNEY: I think people in this industry particularly don't like
the honesty. They don't like someone saying, "I think that's a piece of
crap." That's confronting, particularly if you're a writer or an actor.
It's, like, hang on - you can't say that. And she's, like, yes, I can.
Why not? And I love that. It's honesty in its purest sense.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: I don't know how it happened, how it occurred, how I
became so-called controversial, but it seems to me that in this
business it can be infiltrated by people who... They're not here by a
calling - they're here because somewhere deep down inside their ego
decided that they want to be in show business. But I don't know how the
notion of celebrity got chucked onto people like me who is an actor,
that’s it. There's no cause for celebration, there is no celebrity
anywhere near me, and there's no kind of social graces that go with
this. So I don't know where the lines got blurred.
RAY MARTIN - LOGIES: And the silver Logie goes to Kerry Armstrong. LOGIES ANNOUNCER: Kerry Armstrong played Heather Jelly in 'Seachange' and this is her first Logie.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: I'm 42 years old and I started in TV as a weather
girl. It was something called the desire to act, and the funny thing is
that I've realised after 30 years that I act to disappear, not to be
seen. It's a very strange thing. And so I love Heather Jelly and I'm
glad it's her that's got me up here because she is the goddess of small
moments.
REBECCA GIBNEY: You could see people in the audience going, what's
going on? It was the most extraordinary speech, I think, at any Logies
that I've ever seen. She came off and she went, "Oh, Boofy..." She
calls me 'Boofy' - we call each other Boofy, I go yes boofy, She goes,
"I think I talked a bit too much, didn't I?" I said, "No, honey, you
were fantastic." She went, "Oh, OK, good."
BEV ARMSTRONG: Kerry can only act from virtually her soul, and this
career has been a very difficult career. It's given her a very hard
life. There have been some highs, like wonderful Ray Lawrence's
'Lantana', and other highs, but it's been very difficult, and not a lot
of joy because she feels so deeply.
RAY LAWRENCE: Originally while we were casting, she nearly didn't get
it. I asked her if she would read for two parts - the one of Sonja, the
mother, and the other of the other woman, I guess. I got a message back
saying she didn't want to play a lascivious housewife slut. Which sort
of pissed me off, because it's a good part, and I didn't really want
any of the actors to start judging characters, but she did.
LANTANA EXCERT: It's not that he might have slept with another woman.
RAY LAWRENCE: And she did this amazing reading. It was so truthful and so honest.
LANTANA EXCERT: It's that he might not tell me.
RAY LAWRENCE:I mean, she was well into the part we rehearsed and she just sort of flew with it.
LANTANA EXCERT: That would be the betrayal. Do you still love him?
KERRY ARMSTRONG: It's about entertaining. It's actually the fact that I
know that I'm really interested in moving people deeply, and so I'll do
anything to do that. I'd been in all the school plays - every school
play. I did tours around Australia in a thing called 'The Mating
Season' with Sid James.
BEV ARMSTRONG: She played the role of a schoolgirl, and she learnt a lot from Sid because timing in comedy's so important.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: And I love the stage. The stage is the place for me
where I feel the safest of all. Someone put me in a contest for the
Channel 9 weather girl, and I was 15, had long hair and not a care in
the world. Anyway, I walked in, and I'll never forget - he looked up
after about five minutes, this head of Channel 9, and he said, "Well,
all we can say to you is, congratulations! You're the Channel 9 weather
girl." And I went... (Gasps) He said, "A schoolgirl weather girl." He
said, "We are gonna kill them. We're gonna kill them." He said, "The
ratings will go through the roof."
BEV ARMSTRONG: She felt it was foolish for a young girl to be reporting
on the weather. She just felt very uncomfortable. And finally when she
quit, there was this billboard, 'Weather Girl Quits'.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: No-one in our family had any idea about the industry
and that you don't have to, you know, initiate yourself by wearing
bikinis on prime-time TV.
BEV ARMSTRONG: And it was also something that - has she ever lived it down? I don't know. I don't think so.
NU LYNCH: The blond, the blue-eyed, the girl next door, can be as much
of an obstacle as a help. It looks as though your character's ability
to communicate and her empathy have been transferred to another
character. My role in Kerry's life - I help develop characters and
scripts with her. I mean, I think there's humour in there, which is
great. Once she's found a character, she knows who she is. The more
humour that she can be given, the better. So when some dialogue comes
along that is obviously not her character's dialogue, I don't think
that she can compromise. I don't actually think it's a choice. There's
just this huge, "No!" that happens inside her.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: I'm controversial because sometimes when we are making
modern work and they give me words that don't come out of me
organically, I'm not polite enough to say, "I'm not sure this word
fits." Apparently I go, "Oh, no!" Or I'll go, "Oh...!" Or I'll go,
"Eugh!" Or I'll go... or apparently I'll circle and cross them out.
REBECCA GIBNEY: She's certainly been called difficult on numerous
occasions by lots of people, and I can understand that. I can
understand that people don't like that way of working. I know that some
directors find her hard work, but then there are other directors who
just want to work with her because she is so giving and so willing to
put herself out there.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: We are a nation and we almost champion mediocrity. We
repeatedly seem to have forgotten how to make our hair stand up on end,
and so maybe that's why, you know, I'll get up and throw everything
upside down or shake it out or whatever.
REHEARSAL - Stick to the truth - you know what that is. Understand it,
take your time. Pause if you need to. She's telling you the story,
telling your story, and suddenly you realise how painful it is...
RAY LAWRENCE: In a sense, I think Kerry's her own worst enemy. I think
her standards are so high, her standards for herself, and everybody
else - they don't come up to her level. And they - you know, they don't
know her, so they look at her in a particular light.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: Raquel Welch once was heard to say, "If they're shooting below you, drop to your knees."
BEV ARMSTRONG: She has been sacked years ago. She was doing a part and,
especially when it comes to women, she wants women represented as they
should be.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: We were on the covers of 'TV Week' and I remember
seeing these photos or these images of me and I loathed them so much,
with every being. And I thought, "I don't know how to get out of here."
So there was this really strong voice inside of me saying, "You've got
to get out of here," 'here' being Australia.
NEWS REPORTER: Brad Robinson was today described as the 'ridiculously handsome' guitarist of Australian Crawl.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: The great dilemma was that I met Braddy at that time
and he was the first person who absolutely, implicitly understood me
and who loved me for every aspect of what I did and who I loved. I had
a complete... a resting place finally.
BEV ARMSTRONG: The quick wedding thing - that was amazing. She had
decided to go to America to study and eight days before, Brad and Kerry
said, "We've decided to get married." It was wonderfully romantic, but
it was ridiculous. We really wanted it to work, but unfortunately it
didn't. She had some wonderful friends in New York, and Alexander
Bernstein, I think, is still her, probably still one of her most
wonderful friends.
ALEXANDER BERNSTEIN: I first met Kerry Armstrong in 1981 at the HB
Studios in New York. It was obvious when she arrived at HB that she had
an immense amount of talent. Our teacher, Herbert Berghof, and Kerry
had a somewhat stormy relationship. And I think he even kicked her out
of class a couple of times, and she left a play one time.
BEV ARMSTRONG: You have to do other work, and 'Dynasty' gave her the opportunity to make a living in the States.
DEBORRA-LEE FURNESS: I remember someone said about Laurence Olivier,
"Oh, yeah, he's the guy that does the Kodak commercial." Hello. You
know, Kerry gets remembered for 'Dynasty'. She did a lot of amazing
theatre and everything, but, you know, they're the commercial things
that stick out.
ALEXANDER BERNSTEIN: She had been working with The Actors' Gang - a
group of incredibly talented people - with Tim Robbins, John Cusack,
some wonderful, wonderful actors.
BEV ARMSTRONG: And then at the Arena with Tom Stoppard. She got excellent reviews from the critics.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: Something made me just want to come home. Every time
in my 20s I had something amazing, whether it be - which I did have
with Brad Robinson - probably the best sort of husband in the world, or
the best job in the world, or the best anything... I, um...oh, very
good. I threw it away.
BEV ARMSTRONG: Her private life has been quite rocky. But she has the
most wonderful three children, and a stepdaughter who she loves dearly,
Shanti. So, that's been her absolute joy.
DEBORRA-LEE FURNESS: Sam Finn, gorgeous, and the two boys, Cal and Jai.
She's a great mother. I mean, she's a single mum now. She's got three
boys. That's a huge responsibility.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: The single parenting thing's not something that I want
to advertise as a great cause. What it was is that I never chose, or
knew how to choose, partners that I was at peace with. We have this
structure where the boys have got fathers who love them. I'm grateful
for that. It's untidy as all get-out, but it's working. So that's good.
BEV: As a mother, I've had to learn, and with Kerry helping me and
saying, "Bevvie, don't go to fear." And she's made some poor decisions,
I think. But she has beautiful children, and that's the most important
thing. Yes, it's very hard for Kerry to have a relationship because she
gives so much to her work - her work is very important - but her boys
are the most important thing.
DEBORRA-LEE FURNESS: Kerry's not a person to live in regret. She's not
going to sit around and worry about why she left America. She left
because she wanted to, because that was where she was meant to go.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: I came back here and I couldn't get arrested. I
remember even when I did 'Seachange', I did the screen test and they
called me back and said, "They just want to see if you can do that
again." People saying that I was fluking something. It was incredibly
debilitating. It was like being a phantom in my own country.
DEBORRA-LEE FURNESS: She won't just create, you know, a subtle
character. I mean, you make bold choices like that, it's either going
to pay off or you're going to fall over. And it paid off.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: Heather was also our chance to apologise to all of the
supposed women walking around who look like dumb blondes, or whatever a
dumb blonde is, when what we know is that they're women with great
endeavour who have no sense of self-worth.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: And who dress up and hoick their boobs and put on the
Quick Tan and, "Hello." And do all of that just to hope that they don't
get noticed in a bad way.
SEACHANGE - Bob Jelly: What am I going to say to Sid Farley? Heather Jelly: You can tell Sid Farley that he can he can stop touching your wife's bottom.
SCOTT RANKIN: My term for Kerry is that she's a national treasure. I'm
not sure everybody agrees with that, but there is a certain... time of
kind of maturity in a performer's craft, and in Australia it's very
hard for you to reach that moment or that arc and still have the
courage and not be burnt out.
NEWS REPORTER: 'The Bed Vigil' opened the Melbourne Festival. It's a
bed in which some celebrities and a lot of ordinary people are asked to
sleep, and the first person in the bed was Kerry. NEWS REPORTER: Can you please tell us a time you've had a knot in your heart?
KERRY ARMSTRONG: A knot in my heart? I think that's pretty easy. That
was the day I came home from work and I realised that our house had
burnt down. The other knot in my stomach that day was when we found out
we weren't insured.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: I think for the first half of my life I was given gift
after gift after gift. But the trouble was is that unless you feel
worthy of all of that, you don't know what to do with it. I think that
the second half of my life, or my 30s, apart from the boys, which were
gifts in abundance, there were when the house burnt down and when
Braddy died, all this... There have been some... I seem to have either
really horrific or really wonderful things. And I think that's all just
training.
NEWS REPORTER – BRAD’S MEMORIAL: It was a celebration of a man who so obviously charmed everyone around him.
BEV ARMSTRONG: Yes, Kerry was very, very depressed when Brad developed cancer. And, yes, it was a very, very sad time.
DEBORRA-LEE FURNESS: 'Lantana' was just one of those things that I
believe came at the right time for her. It was meant to be. When you
look at the role, you go, "No-one else could play that, no one else
could do it the way she did." And fortunately everyone agreed. That's
why she got all the awards and the accolades that she deserves.
RAY LAWRENCE: There was only one scene that she added a line, and that
just sort of came out of her mouth. You could just see her building up
in the scene.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: And I remember looking at him and my line was, "I
don't know if I'll even be here tonight," but suddenly out of my body,
he said, "We'll talk about this tonight," and I went, and I just
thought, and I said, "Get fucked. I don't even know if I'll be here
tonight." And Anthony went... like this, and I went... Sonja went,
"Yeah, stick that up your jumper, boy." And I walked out and got into
the car and the two boys playing my kids looked at me and they went,
"Are you OK?" And I went, "I'm great."
RAY LAWRENCE: I think we just did it once and every time I've been in
an audience, a small audience, you know, like showing people, the women
sort of love that scene. They all seem to want to tell men to fuck off.
I was in Paris a couple of months ago and we had a screening just for
people in the industry. And about three French directors came up to me
and said, "Does she speak French?" I said, "No, she speaks Spanish."
They were just completely bowled over by her. You know, and they really
do like the mature woman.
BEV ARMSTRONG: I think that she felt deeply that the Australians, her people, were giving her recognition.
RUSSELL CROWE: The 'Harper's Bazaar' Australian Film Institute Award
for best actress goes to... ..Kerry Armstrong for 'Lantana'. ANNOUNCER:
This is Kerry's second AFI tonight. She is the first person to ever win
best actress AFIs for film and television in the same year.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: Maybe that's why the speeches at award nights are so
erratic. Because I'm so sure that no-one's going to give me an award in
my own country, and when they do I'm so sure they're going to cut me
off or boo anyway that I just start to blurt.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: If they play music, I swear to God I'll deck someone
with this award 'cause I'm... Seriously, I've got people to thank, I do
I do.
BEV ARMSTRONG:I think for Kerry it was, "I'm home. I'm an actor and I'm
home." All of that was in it - all her struggles after returning from
overseas.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: And my beautiful boys. Thank you, everybody.
SCOTT RANKIN: What always happens on the second night of any show, no
matter how professional people are, is that there is an energy drop in
the room.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: It's been made really clear to me that I'm much better
off avoiding situations where I'm fighting sometimes to the detriment
of my own peace and the peace of the production, so I actually am not
interested in that kind of conflict anymore.
SCOTT RANKIN: Armstrong is renowned for stuffing up second-night
performances. She's lazy, she's shonky. She's got the credit, the
review's in, and she cruises from there. Don't follow her career
pattern.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: So I now don't spend time with people who I'm not good
for. Or...and I try not to spend time with people who I can harm. I can
sting, I can hurt people that I love. I don't mean to usually, but
sometimes I do. But I don't want to be around people who I can harm
just by my velocity. 'Cause they don't need any of that.
REBECCA GIBNEY: Kerry just has those extremes. Most of us keep a lot of
those things to ourselves - our vulnerabilities, our failures or our
whatever, we'll keep them inside. She's quite happy to just display
them for the world to see.
KERRY ARMSTRONG: Human beings interest me greatly and I want them to
have a better time. And the way I can do that is to have a better time
myself and to entertain and also just change the world just a little
bit. I promise it won't hurt.
CAPTION: Kerry Armstrong is involved in a new low-budget film and hopes
to direct in the future. She is also campaigning to get a skateboard
park built for kids in her local community.
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